This page contains all hands-on, detailed Camera Reviews that have been published at Photography Life. All photographs and text appearing on 35mmc.com are the exclusive property of the named author (except where stated otherwise) and are protected by copyright. Contribute to 35mmc for an Ad-Free Experience-, Leica M8 A Year with an Ageing Digital Rangefinder By Rui Hu, Panasonic GM1 Review: A Digital ILC Alternative to the Olympus XA2? I like to put my camera to my eye this live-view lark just doesnt appeal to me was the sort of sentence I likely uttered. This is a useful feature for me that I enjoyed using the Fuji system which had a great focus peaking aid. They arent rangefinder coupled past 1m, but nonetheless they do focus that close. But, as someone who shoots, buys and sells a lot of different lenses, the bigger screen would definitely offer me an advantage Id be able to take photos and check lenses were calibrated properly etc. Of course, Id skipped the M240 and gone from M9 to M262 though surprisingly, the menu system of the M262 is even more stripped back than that of the M9. In a world where newer camera models are expected to have more features not less, the Leica M262 doesnt really fit into the normal upgrade path camera manufacturers offer. Its funny, the M262 seems to be the Leica camera that people forget. . Pera I think you might be giving a little to much benefit of the doubt there . One video compares the sound of the shutter to the the M-E. Jump to content . They've been even used in a documentary made by a friend of mine. Menu. So, the obvious question: why not the M10-D? Since receiving a closer focusing lens though Ive noticed that actually the M10 rangefinder goes down to about 0.58m and the M262 goes to about 0.65m. I dont mind adjusting contrast, thats just part of the process of me. The Leica M9/ M8 B&W JPEGs can be created 95-99% in camera and I would say my black and white film images are 88% in camera/film developing, 2% scanning, 10% in computer to remove dust and do any basic darkroom style adjustments. It happened with the M8,M9, more recently the M240 and now the M262. I think I am veering towards the M262 with the Voigtlander Ultron35mm. Here are photos from my first shoot with it: https://matthewtrader.com/leica-m262-review-after-photographing-my-nieces-5th-birthday-party. After a few weeks of using the new Leica M262 I posted a review along with a few videos. The view taken by some Leica users when the M240 was released was that features like live-view and video had no place on a Leica. The only shortcoming relating to the auto ISO function is that sometimes I feel like Id like to be able to see the ISO the camera is choosing on a shot by shot basis. The consent submitted will only be used for data processing originating from this website. With some apprehension, I took the memory card out of the camera and put it into the computer. Leaving aside the video recording, the main difference is the simplified menu of the 262 v the live view of the 240. Live-view with any lens I liked was fun. I am aware many own the Monochrom and love it to death. After the M11 released though, used prices of the M10 dropped and I decided to get one. In my view the lens in use IS much more important than a bit colour differences M240/M262/other Ms. Hello. JPG Settings can be on the user assignable first screen and from that quickly turn on/off Monochrome. The sensor is not the same, by the way. The controls are easy to change while the camera is at your eye. I got the m262 because it has everything i need and nothing i do not need. One of the most important aspects of a camera is the size of its sensor. M262 can be more pleasing in use as lighter with longer lasting battery and a bit quieter than M240. p.s. The LEICA M typ 240 is the world's second full-frame mirrorless camera. I upgraded from the M9 on single basis that I wanted a camera with a better screen. By comparison, the Leica M240 had a lot of features many of which, as Ive alluded to, were seen by some as not needed on a Leica M rangefinder. Every other brand talks about new improved this, and added or increased that. I pressed the shutter button to take a photo and was fairly disappointed to see that the image the live-view screen had showed me was now captured as a photo. The overall user interface of the Leica M262 turned out to be a bigger upgrade than I expected too though its still not been quite the perfect experience. without having to transfer the images to the computer first. Mostly because I wanted to shoot below 0.7m and Id have to use Live View for that. The M262 was the stripped-back camera that came after the M240 and before the M10 and as regular readers of this website will know, I do like a stripped-back camera.if(typeof ez_ad_units!='undefined'){ez_ad_units.push([[580,400],'35mmc_com-medrectangle-3','ezslot_10',180,'0','0'])};__ez_fad_position('div-gpt-ad-35mmc_com-medrectangle-3-0'); Leica must have listened to some of their users who felt that they didnt need a lot of the features that the Leica M240 offered them, and created a camera that felt a little more like a natural progression from the M9. Even though this image set was only intentionally overexposed by a single stop in direct sunlight, the highlights from the image samples taken by the Leica M246 and the Leica M Monochrom were blown and unrecoverable in post processing. My primary reasons for upgrading were: better high ISO capabilities ie. The number of megapixels determines the resolution of the images captured with the main camera. I use it for mostly personal/travel type shooting, with the occasional casual paid shoot. Forget is a strong word. I have an M246 where just holding down the ISO button, turning the thumbwheel to change it then releasing does the job. So I am very glad I got the 240 version. The settings I use (format and manual or auto lens designation) pop up first on the main menu and with 2 clicks both actions are completed. As such, the Leica M262 is possibly better seen as a sidestep rather than a step forward in the Leica lineup. - 35mmc, https://matthewtrader.com/leica-m262-review-after-photographing-my-nieces-5th-birthday-party, Nikon 28ti and 35ti - Mini-Review - By Ahmed Al Shorouqi, 5 frames with the Nikon FM2 & Agfa APX 400 in my Paris - By Martina Rigotti, Camera, Lens, Film and Peripheral Kit Reviews. Im really enjoying this site since discovering it! Enter your email address to subscribe to this blog and receive notifications of new posts by email. Really thats been the beauty of the Leica M262 for me for the most part, its done almost exactly what Ive needed it to. If not, moderators please delete this post. Cheers! . Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead, . Content contributor - become a part of the worlds biggest film and alternative photography community blog. I cant. I have both and haven't noticed any difference but I haven't done a side by side comparison. The M9 and CCD sensor. It then required a short trip to camera-hospital in Germany. The battery is removable and can be replaced by the user if broken. as first digital Leica M, I'd take M (typ 262) but if the M (typ240) is cheaper, go ahead. M9 is magic, even SOOC jpgs. This made me think; maybe I could get on with the video features too? When I was looking at replacing my M9 with a newer model which I did in large part for the benefit of a better screen on the back I chose to skip the Leica M240 due to the fact that I didnt feel like the swathe of features it had compared to the later M262 offered me any advantage. From what I gather, skin tones have better rendering with the M10. Im not going to go into details here to be honest. Its been that camera that I know is there and just crack out when it feels right. And so I had to do a paradoxical thing. Its still inaccurate, but at least the photos look pleasant enough. Ive spent the last month or so shooting with a Leica M [typ 240]. I have found that the shadows in the M10 can be pulled forever, which is great, because both cameras have about the same capacity to blow highlight details. The shutter and cocking mechanism are much quieter than in the earlier and higher-priced M Typ 240, and allow two frames per second to be recorded in single shot mode. In the run up to buying an M10 Ive been reading a lot of reviews, and have found the M262 is rarely mentioned in them. As cboy pointed out above, that may limit lens choice. Unfortunately, this isnt something thats fixed by the M10 either though I am definitely looking forward to how much the M10 improves manual ISO control for me. Now, Im writing this after my M262 has come back from Germany (it only took a couple of months!! Theres a certain robustness or heft to the M240/M262 files that I personally dont see in the M10 files, and that is likely a result of the different sensors used in the cameras. Upload or insert images from URL. The colour differences between the two are due to slightly different colour handling in the camera and can be cancelled out completely by the camera profiles in LR. Although it may be possible to choose among other frame rates, those recordings usually have lower resolutions. The obvious take-away from the third image set is just how poorly the Leica M246 and Leica M Monochrom renders overexposed highlights. I love the files the camera produces, the size and weight is just right and operationally it couldnt be much simpler. I did the same thing Hamish, never having handled the M10. Youve often been a voice of reason in my ear on this website, John. A higher megapixel count means that the camera is capable of capturing more details. A device's overall image quality score considers: color depth, dynamic range and low light performance. I did, yes I have an M10-P now. Im still getting used to it, but for me a 2 issues, weight with a big 50mm lens and editing the files you really bring out the image quality as it seems a bit flat to me. (they really have me suckered in dont they?!). It is the first position on the menu, and setting WB on a grey card or to a preset is a matter of 3 or 4 clicks.Colors. A simple exterior is my kind of camera- adverts belong on billboards, not on cameras. Unknown. For the M240, forget it. Edit: Since writing this I have been made aware that pressing and holding the ISO button is the quickest way to change ISO. Quick charge with automatic constant current control prevents battery from overcharging, short circuit, and electronic shock Learn how your comment data is processed. I should say though, this is probably because none of my other digital cameras work like this if this was my only digital camera, I would likely have gotten used to a lot quicker. Dont get me wrong Hamish, if I didnt have to give the Taxman an additional sum equal to a Leica M10 last Spring, Id have been tempted! I need a new 50mm lens. It serves specific duty now, monochrome and infrared imaging only. To seethedifference between Leica M Typ 262 vs M Typ 240 cameras we have put together Leica M Typ 262 vs M Typ 240 specs comparison tablebelow. Id mounted the lens to my M262 and was pondering how I was going to get used to shooting a 35mm lens again in such a short period []. Having said that, I think the M262 could be a perfect digital rangefinder camera for those looking for a minimal film-camera like digital Leica experience and not needing live view or other features. If you intend to use lenses wider than 28mm or longer than 135mm Liveview and EVF are very useful, also macro photography is much easier (essential with the new 90mm macro lens and macro adapter) or if you need video. It was designed and released after the M240 to offer an option to photographers who didnt need the bells and whistles the M240 had to offer. The M10 has the new ISO wheel on the top left. Of course Im now retired and not doing imaging for a living. It does take lovely photos however and I dont mind using I most of the time but. One has a brightline window, the other does not. Weight is certainly a thing though! I just picked up a Leica M-P Typ 240 to compliment my new M9-P I bought a couple weeks ago. The fix is to remove the bottom plate and remove the battery, but this is not a solution for when the decisive moment is at hand.Low Light Performance. It was un-important to me; I own an M 262. One review even suggested that the M10 should be called the M11, with the M240 rightfully being the M10. In fact, I caught myself using it a number of times without thinking. We've combed through the options and selected our two favorite cameras in this class. As is the image quality of the M10. It only having felt right once in 6 months felt wrong. As John said it beforeendless upgrades, hours to spend to edit files, digital, you take even more picturesthe iso dial is nice, but I prefer (for the sake of creativity versus being too convenient) Film and stick to my a la carte M7 with one lensecalms down your mind. - and the M240 in color. Press and hold, select ISO, and release to lock in the setting. At 0.68 magnification itll be hard to push to 75mm without a magnifier eyepiece x1.25 or x1.4. My budget is c. 3,000 for the camera and lens. Its just become a reason not to use the screen as much as I might have. Hence, I literally could not give a single poop what Para thinks . Above $2500 cameras tend to become increasingly specialized, making it difficult to select a 'best' option. Image Quality. LV is handy for confirming RF calibration. I admit, Im a bit of a snob with stills cameras. This means the image will be stabilised regardless of what lens is being used. I wish I could afford him moreI often find myself agreeing with him too. Early M3 models featured a double-stroke lever, meaning it required two strokes to advance to the next frame of film and cock the shutter. Any chance youre planning to do a write up on that Nokton 50mm f/1.2? Id prefer to do this with the Leica as its the camera I use most often and so the battery is always charged with space on a memory card. Or pictures are completely similar? ins.style.display='block';ins.style.minWidth=container.attributes.ezaw.value+'px';ins.style.width='100%';ins.style.height=container.attributes.ezah.value+'px';container.appendChild(ins);(adsbygoogle=window.adsbygoogle||[]).push({});window.ezoSTPixelAdd(slotId,'stat_source_id',44);window.ezoSTPixelAdd(slotId,'adsensetype',1);var lo=new MutationObserver(window.ezaslEvent);lo.observe(document.getElementById(slotId+'-asloaded'),{attributes:true}); The fact is, I really like them as cameras, but largely speaking they just function for me. In the setup menu, the most used setting is white balance. Ive turned off the automatic image review and hardly ever needto go through the menu - and for the few times that I do so I appreciate the very simple menu structure so its easy to find what Im after. The upgrade to the M10 feels like its based on some fairly thin justifications, though I suspect (hope) that in practice just like swapping from M9 to M262 I will be pleasantly surprised by the fact that I find it brings more to the table than I expected. The ideas with Leica is identities. BudfoxJuly 7, 2016 in Leica M (Type 240 / 262). Whilst I fully get that it is down to personal preference, I just thought I would ask the question: M240 (or its E and P variants) or M262? With regards to minimizing my digital camera gear, my thinking was simple. I think the sensor is the same, only the signal processing is different because there is no LV. Most of the digital M bodies are going to offer a satisfactory experience for the average first time Leica user. And if you find the viewfinder better, as many report. 20% better video recording quality (main camera), Has continuous autofocus when recording movies, has continuous autofocus when recording movies. I would say a hidden gem at 2/3 of the price for a used M-10. 1) Slimmer - The M10 has a slimmer camera body than the M240, similar to the Leica film cameras such as a Leica M6. by Charles Higham, https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Wong+Laica+M+262, https://www.35mmc.com/14/10/2017/fuji-x100f-fuji-lost-sight-elegant-original-concept/, A Zeiss 35mm f/1.4 ZM Distagon Review - An Optical Wonder! The EOS R6 II arrives in one of the most competitive parts of the market, facing off against some very capable competition. Fortunately, whilst the control of ISO isnt quite perfect, I have found the way exposure compensation works on the Leica M262 to be a big step up from the M9. A blessing in some ways, though frustratingly its taken the edge off a feature Ive enjoyed more than I expected to. We've selected a group of cameras that are easy to keep with you, and that can adapt to take photos wherever and whenever something memorable happens. However, the megapixel count is not the only important element determining the quality of an image. This is an inspiring and generous website. If live view/video is a don't care then buy the lower cost camera. This can make the process of rationalising an upgrade quite difficult, though in my experience once the upgrade is made, it does tend to make a bit more sense. So I still have ways to go to become a true minimalist! Using the right SD card is key here. Your previous content has been restored. Image: Leica. Great pictures and very interesting. The smaller file size also allows quicker read/write speeds. It was the third major iteration of colour digital Leica M . Thorsten Overgaard recently posted two comparative X-Rite colorchecker images that show the colour differences between the 262 and 240 which sold me on the 262. Weight savings from the M10 may be there, but with a Thumbs Up in the hot shoe, the M240 feels good and substantial in the hand.ISO setting. Simple. What's the best camera for shooting sports and action? In case you're confused, the M240 was the camera that followed the Leica M9. We case our eye over the options costing more than $2500 but less than $4000, to find the best all-rounder. Edward - you are right about the blues and reds. Thats why the M-D 262 and the M 262 have the same type name. The image on viewfinder of that camera is very warm yet when the images are loaded onto the computer they are less so. Leica has issued new, updated firmware for the entire range of Leica M10 and M240-generation cameras. I bought it as temporary replacement camera after my M262 had to pay a little trip to Germany for some repair work. The color profile is quite different too, with more electric blues and purer reds. Using the zoom focus button on the front of the camera along with Live View is a good aid to focus in these situations.Ergonomics. But even this hasnt really bothered me too much it might be a little clumsy what with the need to press 3 buttons when you want to change ISO, but the way the auto ISO works pretty much makes up for it. It is a quick overview and specs comparisonLeica M-E Typ 240 vs Leica M typ 262====="Subscribe and Share" for more Videosht. I didnt really need the better low light performance that the M262 offered, and was quite happy with the speed and output from the often lauded CCD sensor in the M9. I too prefer the more stripped back feature set of the M9, M240, and M10. The better the dynamic range the system captures a wider number of values from dark to light leading to more details in low and highlights. Then I bought an early mirrorless camera possibly a Panasonic or Sony, I cant remember which came first and I had to eat a load of humble pie. The entire camera feels built to last and like a well engineered tool in use. Intro Sample Images Lenses Specs Performance. To begin with, I tried put the idea to the back of my mind, then one day I opened the cupboard a saw my Monochrom sat there looking underused. Very nice work. The M240 is a great camera that produces gorgeous images but you are undoubtedly going to love the M10. Great review as always, I look forward to the M10 review I think the slimmer body size alone is a reason to upgrade, feel like a proper M body. Hes written some good books, too, some with his partner, Frances. And sometimes they could come in handy. As I talk about in my M9 review, the screen on that camera really is very crap, so this did feel like a big enough deal to make the jump. The Leica M10 's physical controls are logical, simple, and offer the right amount of resistance. As @Jeff Skindly pointed out (when I asked about the M262), this might be a better place to seek views and opinions on this model. Thanks for the insights Louis! Thanks for posting, enjoyed the images. The maximum ISO at which the device still captures excellent quality images. Leica M262 M-P M10 M262 Leica M-E . The following dropbox link to a small group of images hopefully illustrate these subtle but apparent colour densities. Learn how your comment data is processed. The transport lever on the Leica M3. In fact, there was a time when I swore I didnt need anything more. My first experience discovering I like live-view on a rangefinder was had down the pub quite soon after Id bought the Leica M240. Clear editor. At which point I bought a stand-in M240 and I discovered the joys of live view on an m-mount Leica. Released only weeks apart, the Sony 50mm F1.4 GM and Sigma F1.4 DG DN Art are clear competitors. A timelapse shows a long passage of time sped up. Selling the M262, a camera that I purchased for its pure simplicity; and keeping the Z6, a camera that I purchased for its many features (including live view, a hybrid camera with fantastic video capabilities including full frame 4K, compatibility with my Profoto strobes, owning quite a bit of Nikon F-mount glass, auto-focus, etc.)! Thirty days, a new sensor, a new shutter mechanism, and a couple other tweaks and the camera was better than new. Find out more about 35mmc here. You can click any image for a larger view which is the best way to view it as this site compresses these down to what you see below . You have to ask yourself, . Source: DxOMark. A raw image file contains minimally processed data from the image sensor. Using an M this way does not give me the same fundamental photography pleasure as the M8 or M-9P do, but, what it does give me is the ability to scratch the inevitable itch that eventually comes to every M8/9/ME user the desire to use their M for other tasks theirs just cannot do (macro work, adapting other lenses for example). Great Image quality (warmer than M-10, looks more like M-9 CCD image rendering). The 262 probably has a more stable power management, resulting in less banding and thus better high ISO performance. I have looked into all three cameras and all seem like perfectly great cameras . Additionally, I really like the simplified look and small upgrades the MP versions offer. I just dont shoot it at that high ISO for it to be a problem, and often wonder what on earth people are doing with their cameras to need the sorts of high ISOs that get spoken about it reviews. I guess that how much I miss the live-view will define how soon, if at all, I start saving my pennies for a swap. If not, get the 262. I dont need such features on my Leica rangefinders these are real cameras that I use properly, I dont need live-view with my real cameras! Leica M9 vs. M240; M240: More Thoughts; Leica M240: Final Verdict; Leica M9 sharpness vs. Sony RX1R, Nikon D800E, Fuji X100s; My camera of the year for 2013; Related. Hello Hamish,Great writeup. When the Leica M262 was released, Leica proudly told the world that the menu had been reduced to two screens worth of features. Ive decided to sell my Leica M typ 262, so I thought it about time I write a bit of a post about it. Same settings, same ISO of 320, etc. I have used many rangefinders, a Leica M8, M9 (and its variants M-E/M9P/MM), M262, M240P and of course most recently the M-D 262. My justification for upgrading from the M9 to the Leica M262 was almost more ridiculous than the justifications Im hanging my decisions off moving from M262 to M10. Its. Actually, a large part of this is because they dont often inspire me to write about them whilst I own them, yet I hate to see them go without doing them the justice of sharing a few thoughts.var cid='8222364248';var pid='ca-pub-7054871687658000';var slotId='div-gpt-ad-35mmc_com-box-3-0';var ffid=1;var alS=1002%1000;var container=document.getElementById(slotId);container.style.width='100%';var ins=document.createElement('ins');ins.id=slotId+'-asloaded';ins.className='adsbygoogle ezasloaded';ins.dataset.adClient=pid;ins.dataset.adChannel=cid;if(ffid==2){ins.dataset.fullWidthResponsive='true';} I missed his musings in AP. We have the top best product and truth reviews that will help make your decision easy. Help us by suggesting a value. I love the colors from the sensor as a whole, but one thing I dont like is rendering of skin tones. I love the M240, didn't feel to switch to the M10. Same lens, same settings - desaturated during RAW conversion. Has a built-in focus motor Leica M (Typ 262) If zinc is your preference the M6 is your baby. On the M240 the highlight from focus peaking is often not apparent at all. An example of data being processed may be a unique identifier stored in a cookie. You can get two M-Ps (old and new) for the same price as one M10. More battery power can be an indication of longer battery life. Reduction of features is something no other brand of cameras shouts about, ever. Hey all, I've owned an M6 for several years and in the next few months will be unloading a few of my higher-end film cameras to (downsize and) purchase a digital Leica to compliment my M6. Survey: Third-party Lenses for Leica M-Mount , Umfrage: Dritthersteller Objektive fr Leica M-Mount . The battery can be recharged and used over again. Congratulations on your decision. When moving from M9 to M262 Id not put too much thought into how much difference this would make to me, in practice though, this small change in interface makes a big difference to how the camera feels. The firmware adds 6-bit code support and correction profiles for new lenses . When recording movies they stay focussed and sharp. That being said, this is pretty much everything I want from a digital camera or any sort of camera for that matter. The renderings are quite good as a whole, and this feature is not contained in the M10 which relegates one to only the lens filter option.Card Writing Speed. All our Contributors have an ad-free experience for life.Sign uphere. The Leica M (Typ 262) is a digital rangefinder camera announced by Leica Camera on November 19, 2015. I like them nice and simple, low tech, etc. Really useful! Not because its a bad camera, quite the opposite; its a fantastic camera, I just find there to be so little to report or to get overly excited about. No more out of focus shots. I will investigate that. To view the purposes they believe they have legitimate interest for, or to object to this data processing use the vendor list link below. Help us by suggesting a value. I'm not sure if it's ok to show a snapshot of the LFI article. The sensor is not the same, by the way. I soon found one on eBay for a price I was happy to pay and a few days later I had a chrome-finished M240 to keep my company whilst my poorly M262 was seen to by the camera-doctors. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. Compared Usage Recommendations More. This is the reason I was so keen not to be without one for a few months so when the M240 didnt initially seem all that different to the M262 I was really pleased!if(typeof ez_ad_units!='undefined'){ez_ad_units.push([[300,250],'35mmc_com-medrectangle-4','ezslot_12',181,'0','0'])};__ez_fad_position('div-gpt-ad-35mmc_com-medrectangle-4-0'); This relief quickly turned to intrigue.
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